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		<title>Usable Insight &#8211; Listening Into People&#8217;s Eyes</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jul 2011 19:09:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[When you listen for the pain, hurt and fear in people, it is always there. And when people sense you doing that with no other motive than to alleviate all of those, they will lower their walls and reveal them to you. - Dr. Edwin Shneidman (1918 – 2009) American Psychologist, Suicidologist and mentor “You [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>When you listen for the pain, hurt and fear in people, it is always there.<br />
And when people sense you doing that with no other motive than to alleviate all of those,<br />
they will lower their walls and reveal them to you.<br />
- <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mark-goulston-md/a-good-man-a-good-death_b_204205.html">Dr. Edwin Shneidman</a> (1918 – 2009) American Psychologist, Suicidologist and mentor</strong></p>
<p>“You listen into people’s eyes,” Doc Barham told me.</p>
<p>I said: “What?”<span id="more-4379"></span></p>
<p>“When  you sit down with people what you first  notice is people’s  eyes and  then you look and listen into them for their  hurt, pain, fear,  anger  and terror and when you do, they share whatever  it is with you.   And  then they exhale, feel relieved  and open themselves up to you.   That  is your secret sauce,” he  explained.</p>
<p>Doc Barham is CEO of Xtraordinary Outcomes (<a href="http://xtraordinaryoutcomes.com/" target="_blank">http://xtraordinaryoutcomes.com</a>)    a company which identifies what makes individuals, companies and    organizations extraordinary and in doing so, helps  them to come from   that special “tipping point” place to become even  better.  He had been   interviewing me about how I work with patients and  seem to be able to   get through to some of the toughest ones.</p>
<p>Like many “talents” or  skills that people have, it  was spawned out  of a terrible  experience.  I hadn’t  made the  connection until Doc identified the way  that I listen.</p>
<p>Nearly thirty years ago, I had one of the more   awful experiences in  my career as a psychiatrist.  I had been paged to   go up to a patient’s  room at UCLA Medical Center  to “okay” the soft   restraints the surgeons  had placed on him plus the  major tranquilizer  they had then put into  his IV.  The patient, who I  will call Mr.  Jones, was a fifty something  patient with AIDS (just after  it was  identified as an illness), with a  terrible infection, who had  been  placed on a respirator.  He had been  pulling  out his IV’s and then  pulling at his respirator and was in a  state of  what the surgeons  called psychotic agitation.</p>
<p>When I entered Mr. Jones’ room, he  was lying with  his arms and legs  restrained.  His eyes were as big as  saucers and  they seemed to be  screaming out to me.  His eyes in fact  grabbed hold of mine  as I kept  repeating, “What are you trying  to  tell me?”  Because of the  respirator, he couldn’t speak.  All he  could  do was groan in agony.  I  put a pen in his right hand close to the   restraint on that wrist and  put a piece of paper near it so he could   write.  All he could do was  scribble something  that didn’t make any  sense.  I again repeated, “What  is it?”  And again  he couldn’t  communicate what it was.</p>
<p>I concluded that what the surgeons had  said was  true and that Mr.  Jones was psychotic and needing the  restraints and the  tranquilizer.  I  told him: “Mr. Jones, you have  pulling your IV’s out  and pulling at  your respirator tubing and we   needed to restrain you and have also  given you a tranquilizer to help   you calm down.  When you calm down we  will take you off the  restraints.   I will keep checking in to see how  you are doing. Do you  have any  questions?”  All Mr. Jones could do was  stare at  me with his  eyes wide open terror which were now beginning to  show the early signs  of being tranquilized.</p>
<p>I checked in with him and his surgeons over the next couple days, but he was mostly sleeping.</p>
<p>Two  days later I received a page from his attending  chief surgical   resident who in a curt manner said to me: “Hey,  Mr. Jones is up,   alert, off the respirator and commanded us to call  YOU.  So I think   you should come and see him as  soon as you are able.”</p>
<p>With  trepidation, I went up to Mr. Jones’ room.   When I arrived he  was  seated up in his bed. In a non-psychotic and  very determined  he way  grabbed onto my eyes with his, said: “Please sit  down,” and with  those  eyes placed me in a chair.</p>
<p>His eyes never left mine and I could  not move mine  away.  Then in no  uncertain terms and with an emphatic  voice he said: “What  I was trying to  tell you was that a piece of the  respirator tubing had  broken off and  was stuck in my throat.  You  do  need to know that I will kill myself  before I ever get into that   situation again.  Do <em>you</em> understand?”</p>
<p>My eye winced and  teared up as he revealed the  answer to the mystery  from my original  visit.  I wanted to look away,  but couldn’t.  Instead  I said, “I’m so  sorry that I didn’t know that.   And, yes, I do  understand that you  will kill yourself  before you have to go through  something like that  again.”</p>
<p>And that is when I began to “listen into people’s eyes.”  I just didn’t know what to call it.</p>
<p>Epilogue:   I might not have the opportunity to have had this  experience if I  were  at UCLA today, because it is has undergone a  transformation in  the past  four years where they have become completely  patient and  patient family  centric as documented in the NY Times best  selling  book, <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Prescription-Excellence-Leadership-Creating-Experience/dp/0071773541"><em>Prescription for Excellence: Leadership Lessons for Creating a World Class Customer Experience from UCLA Health System</em></a> by Joseph Michelli.</p>
<p><strong>Resources:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0814414036"><em><strong>&#8220;Just Listen&#8221; Discover the Secret to Getting Through to Absolutely Anyone</strong></em></a><strong> (book)</strong></li>
<li><strong><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Just-Listen-Discover-Getting-Absolutely/dp/B004PAHPZ4"><em>&#8220;Just Listen&#8221; Discover the Secret to Getting Through to Absolutely Anyone</em></a><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Just-Listen-Discover-Getting-Absolutely/dp/B004PAHPZ4"> </a>(audiobook)</strong></li>
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		<title>Road Back from Hell &#8211; Des-pair is feeling unpaired in the world</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Nov 2010 06:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The seven lesses of suicidal thinking:

    * helpless
    * hopeless
    * worthless
    * useless
    * pointless
    * meaningless
    * purposeless

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>DISCLAIMER; </strong></p>
<p><strong>Road Back from Hell is meant to be hopeful and helpful to  people who might currently be in a dark place in their life and who  might find comfort, inspiration and solutions from hearing the stories  of others. It is meant for people to share their stories of being in  dark places and how they made it back and for visitors to read those  stories and take comfort and find solutions to try.  It is not a  substitute for psychiatric or psychological care.  We are not able or  staffed to respond to requests for treatment, referrals or to make  medical, psychiatric or psychological recommendations. </strong></p>
<ul>
<li><strong>Every community has some sort of Mental Health Services- Find Some Help</strong></li>
<li><strong>Every town has a priest, minister, deacon or elder- Talk to them</strong></li>
<li><strong>Every school has a Guidance Counselor or Social Worker- Speak to Them</strong></li>
<li><strong>Every city has a hospital – Go to the E.R. if you are seriously depressed or suicidal or thinking about “ending it all.”</strong></li>
<li><strong>Every city has a 911 if you are in a dire situation – Call it.</strong></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>There are resources out there and people who care- Use them.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Des-pair = feeling unpaired in a world where you (mis)perceive that everyone else is paired with intelligence, attractiveness, worth, love and hope.</strong></p>
<p>And when you feel unpaired with anything and all you feel is pain, you begin to pair with death as a way out of the pain. When you&#8217;re in that state of mind you fail to realize that &#8220;suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem.&#8221;</p>
<p>For a number of years I used to be a guest lecturer at UCLA in a course entitled: &#8220;Death and Suicide&#8221; taught by one of my mentors, <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mark-goulston-md/a-good-man-a-good-death_b_204205.html">Dr. Edwin Shneidman. </a> Ed was one of the pioneers in the study and interventions in suicidal thinking and behavior.  He was one of the co-founder of the Suicide Prevention movements in Los Angeles and Washington, D.C.</p>
<p><span id="more-2954"></span>In my talk at UCLA entitled, <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwybgVTh1i8">&#8220;I&#8217;m going to kill myself,&#8221; </a>I spoke about &#8220;Des-pair&#8221; and the seven lesses of suicidal thinking:</p>
<ul>
<li>helpless</li>
<li>hopeless</li>
<li>worthless</li>
<li>useless</li>
<li>pointless</li>
<li>meaningless</li>
<li>purposeless</li>
</ul>
<p>I emphasized that what all of these had in common was &#8220;-less&#8221; as in &#8220;without,&#8221; without help, without hope, etc.  I also said that the aim of treatment was to give suicidal patients a feeling of &#8220;with&#8221; to counter the feelings of &#8220;without.&#8221;  When you do that, they will stop &#8220;pairing&#8221; with death and may begin to start &#8220;pairing&#8221; with you, feel less alone and less suicidal.</p>
<p>I did that with one of the most suicidal patients I ever saw in:<a href="http://markgoulston.com/articles/650.html"> &#8220;The Road Back from Hell&#8221;</a></p>



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		<title>Usable Insight &#8211; Baby Boomer Death Wish</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2010 19:41:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Watch Mark&#8217;s CNN interview. Wife: &#8220;Before I become a burden on my kids, I&#8217;m going to take a bottle of pills.&#8221; Husband: &#8220;Too chancy, I&#8217;d go with a couple of guns.&#8221; - husband and wife after caring for two parents with Alzheimer&#8217;s for three years This is a response I am hearing from an increasing [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Watch Mark&#8217;s <a href="http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/bestoftv/2010/07/10/nr.boomer.deathwish.cnn?iref=allsearch">CNN interview</a>.</p>
<p><strong>Wife: &#8220;Before I become a burden on my kids, I&#8217;m going to take  a  bottle of pills.&#8221;<br />
Husband: &#8220;Too chancy, I&#8217;d go with a couple of  guns.&#8221;<br />
- husband and wife after caring for two parents with  Alzheimer&#8217;s for  three years</strong></p>
<p>This is a response I am hearing  from an increasing number of white middle  class* baby boomers as they face the  prospect of becoming old, enfeebled  and a financial and emotional  burden on their children.</p>
<p>It may also be that they are projecting  the burden, drain and resentment  they are feeling or have felt towards  their own aging parents who have  become enfeebled and require nearly  round the clock care.  And knowing  how they have felt towards their own  parents, they don&#8217;t want their  children to carry the burden of taking  care of them and feeling the same  way towards them.</p>
<p>It may be  prescient of them that knowing how impatient** they have been  with their  own parents and that their Millennial kids have no patience  whatsoever,  the idea that becoming mentally and physically enfeebled and  dependent  on these children portends an absolutely horrendous quality  of life  for both them and their children.</p>
<p>Is there a solution so that  baby boomers might go &#8220;gently into that  good night&#8221; instead of taxing  their patience challenged adult children?   Most likely what will happen  is that when the middle class Millennials  grow up and are in the  position of having to take care of their elderly  baby boomer parents,  they will find a way (as their baby boomer parents  have) to help pay  for their care and delegate their caring to third  world caretakers who  still retain God&#8217;s gift of patience towards those  in their care (which  is why many a middle class baby boomer declares  such caretakers   &#8220;Godsends&#8221;).</p>
<p>One highly unlikely alternative is that Millennials  will somehow  develop patience to calmly follow the admonition of Cicely  Saunders,  founder of the hospice movement in caring for dying and  infirm parents:  &#8220;Don&#8217;t just do something, stand there.&#8221;  Why so  unlikely? Maybe it&#8217;s  because their baby boomer parents who were the  last generation to  abandon patience in favor of the race to get more,  sooner have been such  effective role models.</p>
<p>In closing I am  reminded of a quote from Dr. Milton Greenblatt from the 1970&#8242;s:</p>
<blockquote>
<div>First  we are children to our parents,<br />
then parents to our children,<br />
then  parents to our parents,<br />
then children to our children.</div>
</blockquote>
<p>But  then again that was in a galaxy far, far away and a time long, long   ago when patience was not just a virtue&#8230; it was actually possible.</p>
<p><em>* This phenomenon may be more of an issue for the white middle class baby boomer, because family is everything for Third World people and the wealthy can and do pay for everything from people (often Third World) to raise their children to caretakers to provide care </em><em>and loving caring to their aging and infirm parents.</em></p>
<p><em>** Another factor involved with the people I have heard these complaints from is the combination of Impatience + Difficult Parent (difficult as in &#8220;high maintenance, as in difficult to please, easy to upset).  It&#8217;s easy to be patient with parents who are &#8220;low maintenance&#8221; (easy to please, difficult to upset), generous and gracious even as they lose much of their physical and mental faculties. The takeaway from this is that what goes around, comes around and if <span style="text-decoration: underline;">you</span> are the one who is &#8220;high maintenance,&#8221; you might want to change that.<br />
</em></p>
<p>And  if this is not sobering enough read how <a href="http://www.aarp.org/work/retirement-planning/info-06-2010/running_out_of_money_worse_than_death.html" target="_hplink">Older Americans Greatest Fear is Outliving Their   Money.</a></p>
<p>Also see: <a href="http://articles.latimes.com/2006/oct/30/health/he-files30">&#8220;How   Could She Wish Death on the Mother She Loved?&#8221;</a></p>



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		<title>A Good Man, A Good Death</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 22:31:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[First posted on The Huffington Post At 3:15 PM PST today, Friday, May 15, 2009 my long time mentor and beloved friend, Edwin Shneidman, pioneer in the study, prevention and intervention of suicide and suicidal behavior died at age 91 as he would have wished, peacefully at home. To appreciate the magnitude of his being able [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>First posted on <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mark-goulston-md/a-good-man-a-good-death_b_204205.html">The Huffington Post</a></em></p>
<p>At 3:15 PM PST today, Friday, May 15, 2009 my long time mentor and beloved friend, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edwin_Shneidman">Edwin Shneidman</a>, pioneer in the study, prevention and intervention of suicide and suicidal behavior died at age 91 as he would have wished, peacefully at home. To appreciate the magnitude of his being able to do that you need to read:  <a href="http://www.kansascity.com/238/story/1178078.html">Waiting for the End, Alone and Unafraid</a> and if you want to read the story behind that story, you will want to read the <a href="http://www.nieman.harvard.edu/narrative/interview.aspx?id=100032">Neiman Foundation for Journalism at Harvard interview with Tom Curwen.</a></p>
<p>Ed was the founder of <a href="http://www.suicidology.org/web/guest/home">The American Association of Suicidology </a>and Professor of Thanatology at <a href="http://www.ucla.edu/">UCLA</a>. He authored, co-authored or edited nineteen books on the topic.</p>
<p>I had the occasion to visit him &#8211; not as often as I should have -over the past several physically painful years of his life. I believe one of his greatest accomplishments is that he managed to meet all the ten &#8220;<a href="http://74.6.146.127/search/cache?ei=UTF-8&amp;p=criteria+for+a+good+death+shneidman&amp;fr=yfp-t-501&amp;u=www.adec-socal.org/resources/Criteria+for+a+Good+Death+by+Dr.+Edwin+Shneidman.pdf&amp;w=criteria+criterion+good+death+shneidman&amp;d=NlKM2kxISxFK&amp;icp=1&amp;.intl=us">Criteria for a Good Death&#8221;</a> that he set forth in an article with that title published in June, 2007 in <a href="http://www.guilford.com/cgi-bin/cartscript.cgi?page=periodicals/jnsl.htm&amp;cart_id=871636.9316">Suicide and Life-Threatening Behavior </a>published by The American Association of Suicidology.</p>
<blockquote><p><strong><br />
1. Natural. </strong>There are four modes of death&#8211;natural, accident, suicide and homicide (NASH). Any survivor would prefer a loved one&#8217;s death to be natural. No Suicide is a good death. <br />
<strong>2. Mature. </strong>After age 70. Near the pinnacle of mental functioning but old enough to have experienced and savored life. <br />
<strong>3. Expected. </strong>Neither sudden nor unexpected. Survivors-to-be do not like to be surprised. A good death should have about a weeks lead time. <br />
<strong>4. Honorable. </strong>Filled with honorifics but not dwelling on past failures. Death begins an ongoing obituary, a memory in the minds of the survivors. The Latin phrase is: De mortuis nil nisi bonum (Of the dead [speak] nothing but good). <br />
<strong>5. Prepared. </strong>A living trust, prepaid funeral arrangements. That the decedent had given thought and made arrangements for the necessary legalities surrounding death. <br />
<strong>6. Accepted.</strong> &#8221;Willing the obligatory,&#8221; that is, accepting the immutables of chance and nature and fate; not raging into the night; acceding to nature&#8217;s unnegotiable demands. <br />
<strong>7. Civilized. </strong>To have some of your loved ones physically present. That the dying scene be enlivened by fresh flowers, beautiful pictures, and cherished music. <br />
<strong>8. Generative. </strong>To pass down the wisdom of the tribe to younger generations; to write; to have shared memories and histories; to act like a beneficent sage. <br />
<strong>9. Rueful. </strong>To cherish the emotional state which is a bittersweet admixture of sadness, yearning, nostalgia, regret, appreciation, and thoughtfulness. To avoid depression, surrender, or collapse; to die with some projects left to be done; by example, to teach the paradigm that no life is completely complete. <br />
<strong>10. Peaceable. </strong>That the dying scene be filled with amicability and love, that physical pain be controlled as much as competent medical care can provide. Each death an ennobling icon of the human race.</p></blockquote>
<p>Ever the articulate humorous iconoclast, I think Ed would have eschewed the pomp and circumstance I ellaborated above and prefer that I had just said that he hoped he had simply followed the dictum of <em>his</em> mentor, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Murray">Henry A. Murray</a>: <strong>&#8220;A good death is dying so as to be as little a pain in the ass to your family as possible.&#8221;</strong></p>
<p>I will be forever grateful to Ed who early in my career had enough confidence in me to entrust some of the most suicidal patients from the UCLA in patient wards when they needed to be discharged, but were still suicidal. He did it with a simple phone call: &#8220;Hello Mark, this is Ed. I am sitting with a lovely young woman. She&#8217;s in a lot of pain. You can help her. <em>SEE</em> her.&#8221;</p>
<p>I also owe Ed a singular skill to help such people when he told me: &#8220;Mark, if you listen for hurt, fear and pain, it is <em>always</em> there. And when the other person feels you listening and<em>feeling</em> them, they will lower their guard, open their minds and hearts to you, allow you to enter and comfort them and if you&#8217;re fortunate, will let you walk them out of hell.&#8221;</p>
<p>And Ed, regarding being &#8220;as little a pain in the ass to your family possible&#8221;&#8230; I think you actually pulled that off.</p>
<p>Now it&#8217;s time to thank you for how many millions of people your life work has helped to face death and to bid farewell to you Ed, using the same words you would use when I would leave your home during recent visits: &#8220;Goodbye, dear man.&#8221;</p>
<p>Be at peace, I will miss you.</p>



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